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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:35 am 
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I bought an m3 knife minus acabbard today for £20 and was assured it was genuine but I am not sure ,it has USM3 stamped on blade and hilt but no manufacturers name is visible and it has no ordanance mark but is well used ,has been sharpened slightly reducing blade width ,has some rust pitting and the leather washers are dented and worn .Any ideas on what else to look for to check originality or any one local to Rickmansworth fancy having a look and giving thier expert opinion?
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is that the definitive answer?and if so what is the giveaway ,lack of makers name or lack of ordanance mark?
,Nigel


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Repro -German made. The price alone should have given it away.


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Repro -German made. The price alone should have given it away.


if it is repro it has obviously had a hard life ,but price alone cannot prove originality otherwise why bother searching for a bargain ? in the not too distant past I have bought 2 original parabikes for around £200 each but these are often sold for far more does that make the dearer ones more original?
I am sure you are probably right about the knife being a repro but I would just like to know what is the giveaway
cheers ,Nigel


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Sounds like a repro to me - best bet if you want opinions is to stick up a coupls of photos :wink:

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ford369 wrote:
is that the definitive answer?and if so what is the giveaway ,lack of makers name or lack of ordanance mark?
,Nigel


Hi Nigel

For £20 you have not exactly been robbed (how much/little are current reproductions going for?)

No year, makers mark or ordnance acceptance stamp are all give-aways.

Does it have a plastic spacer just behind the crossguard?
Had a "genuine" M4 Carbine bayonet once that did; it was kosher Japanese, circa 1970's.

Money spent on a specialist reference books is money well spent.
If you'd like some titles worth looking out for I am more than happy to point you in the right direction.

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ford369 wrote:
is that the definitive answer?and if so what is the giveaway ,lack of makers name or lack of ordanance mark?
,Nigel


Hi Nigel

For £20 you have not exactly been robbed (how much/little are current reproductions going for?)

No year, makers mark or ordnance acceptance stamp are all give-aways.

Does it have a plastic spacer just behind the crossguard?
Had a "genuine" M4 Carbine bayonet once that did; it was kosher Japanese, circa 1970's.

Money spent on a specialist reference books is money well spent.
If you'd like some titles worth looking out for I am more than happy to point you in the right direction.

Jon

you are right for £20 an original looking repro is not really a problem it is just one of those things you use to learn from I will carry on looking for a genuine one for sennsible money but until then I have an acceptable alternative.Although I have several excellent books on US ww2 uniforms and equipment I have nothing on edged weapons so if you have any suggestions they would be very useful
thanks ,Nigel


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 21:19 pm 
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BEST author is M H COLE; get his single volume book - as the individual 3 volume set on fighting knives/bayonets can add up somewhat.
The single collected volume is anything from £40 to £65+

If not, look for books by Silvey, Burlein, Hughes, Jenkins or Flook.

PM me if you want titles or ISBN numbers; or web-sites to get them from (Amazon is the LAST place to look, not the first)

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Bought mine, a blade marked UTICA in a junk shop in recent years for £12. I actually beat him down from £14..So, naa-naa! :wink:

Sorry, being a little imature..... :oops:

Anyway, if you really want an M3. And safe in the knowledge that it's a "good un", then bite the bullet, and be prepared to spend the money. Go to a reputable dealer,a reccomended one, and discuss what they have. If the dealer is worth his salt, then his examples will be guarenteed.

OR, you can spend time and effort looking for that elusive bargain....

MT

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