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Author:  Noddy1979 [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 21:21 pm ]
Post subject:  M3 Knife.... help

Managed to pick up this today for £30. Now I need a bit of help on its authenticity. If its a repro then for £30 I can't complain, if it's genuine I've come across something cool.

The blade has no markings. and the cross guard/ pommel have pits and rust so no markings are obvious. So i'm inclined to think it's a repro.

The leather washers have a plastic/ bakerlite washer at the end closest the pommel and cross guard (tried to show it in the pic). Only ever seen this practice on an original, not on any repro's I have seen.

Please can anyone help me to clarify this one way or another.

Cheers

Author:  2ad82recon [ Sun Oct 21, 2007 21:26 pm ]
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Noddy...sounds to me like a Kutmaster post war M3 "civilian" type knife.Crossguard looks too "thin" for an original.
Saying that check for "grind" marks on the blade or crossguard where the military markings have been ground out.

Also check the pommel..the bit at the end for retaining pins.....or how is the tang fastened to the blade...(look end on) and also has it got a flaming bomb ordnance mark stamped on the pommel.

Also not wishing to insult your intelligence but are you sure its an M3 not a 6" blade 1950s jet pilot survival knife.

Regards

LLoyd

Author:  whistlinwolf [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Knife

OOOH Lloyd, we love it when you talk technical. :wink:


Tim

Author:  gliderinf [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:59 am ]
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"OOOH Lloyd, we love it when you talk technical. "

Dirty boy :lol:

Author:  2ad82recon [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  oh yeah

Listen to you pair...over there in the COLD......

oh well off to the pool......smirks...then whistles gently enjoying yet another day of Lanzarotte heat

regards

technical dirty boy

Author:  whistlinwolf [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Steady on

Its positively tropical here at the moment !
Honest !
You stay out of the sun now and don't drink too much coke .

Mr Chilly

PS are you in (the pool)

Author:  2ad82recon [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:34 am ]
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I have me hankie on me head..me union jack shorts on....the works...thank you very much.

not yet in the pool....i have 8 mins left on here...

So Noddy what have you ...?.......Kiffe Japan also made a civilian M3 type knife also...but they were marked on the ricasso..KIFFE Japan

May be its one of those with the markings removed to "fool" the unwary

Regards

Lloyd

Author:  Noddy1979 [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 18:19 pm ]
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well there is no markings so perhaps its not ww2. oh well lol. for £30 i cant complain

Author:  2ad82recon [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 20:34 pm ]
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Noddy check for grind marks mate..where there "may" have been markings...a lot of US marital blades were civilianised post war for the hunting market.

regards

Lloyd

Author:  Bilko [ Mon Oct 22, 2007 20:38 pm ]
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That looks like the one you were selling not to long ago?,How many pins in the pommel?,also whats the washer spacing.

Author:  Noddy1979 [ Wed Oct 24, 2007 19:28 pm ]
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arent any pins in the pommel i'm afraid, about 3mm spacing between each washer. Blade does seem to have been ground (lines on the blade etc). The pommel is pitted and has slight rust so i can only presume someone has perhaps altered it, and in doing so has removed the original parkerising allowing it to pit and rust. i'll add another couple of pics tomorrow showing the full thing.

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