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Need some help, was the sling used on the Bazooka the same sling as the M1 Garand. Also was it the leather or canvas version.

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fatter than garand, webbing not leather too, there are 50s dated ones around


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No.

It is similar to the Rifle Web Sling, but it's 1.5" wide.

Wartime ones are virtually impossible to find, but you can get 1952 dated ones from a couple of UK sellers at the various fairs (just have the buckle over the top of the date - no-one can tell!).

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Snap....

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snap?????????? that sounds like a paratroppers leg on landing !

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Thanks for your help, will have to start searching at the next market.

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Just out of interest what are M1A1 Bazooka rockets fetching nowadays
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The correct sling, as used in WW2 on the U.S. M1A1 bazooka, was in fact the standard issue web sling issued with the M1 Garand. The M9 and M9A1 used the same sling as well. The 1.5" web slings were first used with the postwar 3.5" M20 launchers. I have some period report notes on the development of the bazookas, dated 1946, which specify this. I will try to dig them out of my office "pile" of papers and copy the text to post here (if anyone is interested...)

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http://www.lboe.com/ReplicaBazookaUpdate.htm

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My M1A1 Bazooka sling is a M1 web rifle sling war time dated. Uziman you don't happen to have anything to do with the web site that makes the Bazooka's.


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Yes, that is my site. I have been producing replica M1A1's since 1992.

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Uziman I have been offered a bazooka M1A1 supposedly it came from the U.S.
did you identify yours at all the only thing I can find on this is a serial number
stamped at the rear end where you would load it the internal dia is 2 3/8"
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I serial number mine at the stock mount. The one you are being offered is probably not one of mine unless it is a very early replica - I didn't number the first ones I made. So, someone could have numbered one of my early ones themselves... nevertheless, if it's a good one, have fun with it! (If I saw some clear pictures I could tell for sure.)

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Uziman I am really impressed with your Bazookas. I made a M1 Bazooka, early type copied from the National army museum in Chelsea, London, went back three times for details. The fire box that would have sat on top at the back was removed and converted with a M1A1 contact band and re-enforced with wire. It was an M1 with a M1A1 back end. I believe that the M1s used during the war was giving the troops at lot of bother in the field ie miss fires bad connections, they were going to recall all of them from use to replace them with the later M1A1s but instead converted then in the field. The only M1 i have seen with the fire box is at at the MOD Pattern room. You don' happen to know were i could get one. Have you yourself had a go at making one. I noticed that there are quite a few type of Bazooka with different types of sights etc.


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Hello 30th. Thank you for the compliments.

I do not know where an original M1 (with contactor box) could be obtained. I have access to one in a private collection, and I have considered producing a replica of the M1, but I hesitate without knowing what the actual interest might be. Considering that due to the inherently poor mechanical design of the contactor assembly a number of terrible U.S. fatalities occurred in the field*, I don't see many reenactors wanting to carry this early model. I could very well be wrong - I am not a reenactor myself, but merely an ordnance supply source... Let me know what you and yours might think on this subject - I would be grateful for your valuable input.

*BTW - I am working on a booklet containing very interesting developmental facts and other data, as well as some early material from several WW2 U.S. ordnance sources, on the 2.36" bazookas. When available, It will end up on my site http://www.lboe.com/ReplicaBazookaUpdate.htm

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There are some good points about the M1 Bazooka apart from the fire system, personally i like the two grips and the early sights has the advantage of being ambidextrous, ideal for left handers. It is interesting to see the variety of sights for both types. I do laugh at the way the bazooka is displayed pyrotechnic wise in re-enacting with two white puffs of smoke out of each end. In real life there is a cloudless blast from the rear as the propellant is smokeless with a loud report or a bang. and no smoke comes from the front. The rocket motor is burnt out before it leaves the tube (depends on temperature). the rocket can just about be seen in flight to the target if watched closely. The hole it makes is about an inch in steel plate give or take. The M1 bazooka would be correct for North Africa Re-enacting and correct for most part of the war with the back end converted to M1A1 spec with the contact box removed.
It would be nice to have both models available. What would be in demand would be the rocket tubes if someone could make them.
Do you also make the rockets, both types.


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uziman wrote:
The correct sling, as used in WW2 on the U.S. M1A1 bazooka, was in fact the standard issue web sling issued with the M1 Garand. The M9 and M9A1 used the same sling as well. The 1.5" web slings were first used with the postwar 3.5" M20 launchers. I have some period report notes on the development of the bazookas, dated 1946, which specify this. I will try to dig them out of my office "pile" of papers and copy the text to post here (if anyone is interested...)

Michael



Hi Michael,

How would you explain a wartime-dated tan web 1.5" sling then? I narrowly missed out on this one on ebay, being sold as a rifle sling.

Unless there's something else out there that used the sling during WWII, surely ii must have been a bazooka sling?

Cheers,
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