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 Post subject: Cavalry Mess tins?
PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 23:04 pm 
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Real Name: Craig Thompson
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Now then. It appears that I have a set of wartime dated round mess tins. WD stamped and dated. Is there any evidence out there of their use and issue to troops during WW2?
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 Post subject: Re: Cavalry Mess tins?
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:49 am 
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I have read many times of them being issued but for the moment I can't remember to whom or for what as my interest was with them in ww1. I want to say mostly Canadian and for armoured vehicles but I have absolutely nothing to back that up but a dodgy memory. For certain those last few horse troops in the middle east will have used them.


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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:51 am 
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RAF also rings a distant bell


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I swapped some AM stamped ones via this forum. Wish I hadn't....

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 14:53 pm 
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If they are the same as the WW1 pattern, they were originally manufactured for mounted troops and continued in manufacture up to early WW2.

Remember we still had one Cavalry Division at the start of WW2 plus lots of pack animal units.


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 21:45 pm 
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https://hatchfive.wordpress.com/2014/12 ... mess-tins/


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 21:47 pm 
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"A scarce British WW2 cavalry mess tin, dated 1941, also carried in armoured fighting vehicles, it is in nice condition with all it's original finish on the outside, the handle hinge is maker marked and dated 1941 with WD arrow, the general condition is excellent, with normal signs of age." http://www.fieldserviceantiquearms.co.u ... 1895-p.asp


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Not sure about the carried in armoured vehicles bit unless they did it pre-war.


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The RAF and remaining cavalry units certainly used them at the start of the war. Some artillery units also had them, as here where it is attached to the gunner's water bottle.
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Great photo of the artillery. Looks like it is attached to a ww1 water bottle carrier. In ww1 I have seen the attached to the bandolier but this had gone by the time they were on the 25 pounders. I guess this photo must be early war


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Yes it's early war, taken from the book 'Britain's Wonderful Fighting Forces'

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The unit is very probably ex-yeomanry of which many regiments were converted to Artillery during the 1930's.
Hence still retaining some of their cavalry kit.

The water bottle is the standard 1903 Cavalry pattern which would have been issued with the mess tin. This item of equipment remained in production with minor changes and was used by the Home Guard etc. If we had a clear front view they may also be wearing bandoliers or certainly the 1903 pattern leather belt.


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Thanks guys - very interesting!


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