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Author:  Robspad [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:33 pm ]
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Valentine IX tank found in Poland:

http://technowinki.onet.pl/inne/multimedia/unikatowy-czolg-wydobyty-z-koryta-warty,5288419,12981246,foto-duze.html

http://jarek69.flog.pl/wpis/5838930/brytyjski-czolgu-valentine-ix

http://konflikty.wp.pl/gid,15043581,kat,134954,title,Czolg-Valentine-wydobyty-z-dna-starorzecza-Warty,galeria.html

Author:  scottgpw42 [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 14:59 pm ]
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Wow would that have been a " in german use one" or a lendlease to russia one ?
Scott

Author:  britishwardog [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 15:35 pm ]
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Looks in amazing condition

Author:  Robspad [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 16:55 pm ]
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Quote:
Wow would that have been a " in german use one" or a lendlease to russia one ?


Probably Lend-Lease.

Author:  trunks [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 17:29 pm ]
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they were lend lease seems the soviets liked them.

http://www.o5m6.de/valentine_ix.html

Author:  Viktor [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 18:02 pm ]
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Tak tochno Comrade trunks, they were liked as a Reconnaissance machine within the RKKA, one of the examples of few lease-lend armour that was liked (to a degree predetermined by the regimental Political Officer and his staff).

They must have been slav proof to a level other armoured complexes were not. :D

Author:  Oggy [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:38 am ]
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thutu wrote:

If that's not a dodgy link, you can call me Meyer

Author:  Oggy [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:38 am ]
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Viktor wrote:
Tak tochno Comrade trunks, they were liked as a Reconnaissance machine within the RKKA, one of the examples of few lease-lend armour that was liked (to a degree predetermined by the regimental Political Officer and his staff).

They must have been slav proof to a level other armoured complexes were not. :D

and requested more of...

Author:  Andrei Kozlov [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:21 am ]
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They liked it because the ones they had were deseil engined and reliable - like a Soviet tank.

The petrol engined lend lease armour was less popular, probably due to logistical issues given the doctrine with which tanks were used for large deep penetrations of enemy held territory. Having to bring up large quantities of petrol as well as desiel would give them extra troubles they didn't need.

Author:  Viktor [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:43 am ]
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Comrades,
It had a serviceable Weapon System and Armour, the classic mix of Mobility, Armour and Weapon System balanced in such away to suit the RKKA Tank Arm.

Other Lease Lend Armoured Complexes had Bourgeois issues with Red Army Doctrine, failing to conform with the needs of the struggle for the liberation of Mother Russia, the reasons being many and varied as they were not designed for Russia, the Valentine was just lucky.

As so it is Honoured.

Urrah!

Author:  Robspad [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:54 am ]
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On Thursday, in the backwaters of the river Warta Valentine a tank was recovered from the Second World War. This is the first tank of it’s kind in Poland and the only one in the world who took part in combat actions! Valentine managed the mining action Jacek Kopczynski of Lodz – a collector of vintage and military vehicles, one of the fathers of Veteran Vehicles Bazaar in. Jacek Kopczynski said on Wednesday that if you manage to get the Valentine it will be a sensation in the world. It’s the first tank of this type found in Poland.`

Janusz Zbit, an expert on military present on the spot said that in Poland there is not one such machine. Once I found the remains of Valentine in Bydgoszcz, but it was weight, nothing more. This is well preserved. On the two or three years could drive reconstruction. In the world are reportedly three preserved, but this would be the only one involved in combat actions. Valentine To remove the tank divers using pressurized water blowdown wreck. An initial inspection of the wreckage Valentine indicate that surprisingly good condition. Tank Valentine lay in Warta since January 1945, when during the war broke through the ice. The Red Army received from the Allies about 2000 tanks Valentine. In the world to date only three such machines are known, which can be seen in museums. None, however, did not participate in the fighting. Tank of the Warta is so unique in the world.

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/valentine-tank-from-world-war-ii-found-in-polish-warta-river.html

Author:  Andrei Kozlov [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:01 am ]
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Actually, the RKKA got ~3800 Valentines :)

Author:  Cobblers [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 0:42 am ]
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As far as I know it was Soviet demand for the Valentine that kept it production for so long.

Author:  Viktor [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:36 am ]
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Tak tochno Comrade, as a Fighting Complex the design was not broken, so it was not fixed.

Author:  BarnacleBill [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 20:14 pm ]
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The translation states there 3 x Valentines left in the world, all seen in museums. I don't know if the 3 they mention includes the DD Valenitine knocking around on the re-enacting scene, always gets me going when I see it! Lovely!

Author:  Viktor [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 20:26 pm ]
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They are interesting Battle Technology Comrade.

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